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Guns under siege

May 2, 2013

From the president on down through his Democratic supporters, all are determined to make firearm use and ownership as rare as possible....

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USABorn

May-04-13 7:14 AM

Blaming the NRA for Sandy Hook is like blaming AAA for drunk driver killings.

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MrShaman

May-03-13 10:45 AM

"Gosnell is on trial he is not getting away. What is going to happen to the cold blooded 5 year old who shot his sister?" - CMReeder

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As would be expected...those folks, who are so quick to try minority-teens as adults, have already made a determination; i.e. "just one of those crazy accidents."

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SteelerFan

May-03-13 8:27 AM

Pathetic Chuck

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CMReeder

May-03-13 7:49 AM

Gosnell is on trial he is not getting away. What is going to happen to the cold blooded 5 year old who shot his sister?

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MrShaman

May-03-13 6:08 AM

"Don't you just love liberals?

Abortion is settled law, so we must ignore Kermit Gosnell and the undercover videos shoeing inner city abortion clinics violating the law.

Meanwhile, the Second Amendment is still dissected, debated and impugned despite a ruling that it is an individual right." - eriklatranyi

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How amusing...that we're STILL not collectively-clear, on matters of American History, but...The Bible should be considered INFALLIBLE (regarding the accuracy/viability of THOSE times).

Don't you just love "conservatives"?

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USABorn

May-02-13 10:24 PM

MrShaman - 5:04 PM

"So sayeth the Axis Of Ignorance."

So sayeth the broken record Shaman.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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JohnZook

May-02-13 10:07 PM

Jerry- your angel dust flashbacks must be kicking in again. What the h377 protocols are you referring to. What I'm demonstrating is original intent and meaning of the vocabulary and the meaning of such terminology. You want to use today's meaning to make your point, I demonstrated original meaning. I somehow missed the establishment of those protocols.

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rmiller

May-02-13 9:57 PM

Good letter.

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Bufftrev1

May-02-13 8:43 PM

Apparently, Erik, you're not bright enough to see that's exactly what you're doing.. or, perhaps you are.

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JerryfromRI

May-02-13 8:05 PM

@JohnZook

I'm not challenging your definition, only that you've broken protocol by asserting one portion without the other. As conservatives have a=established, the two can not be separated,

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eriklatranyi

May-02-13 7:44 PM

Don't you just love liberals?

Abortion is settled law, so we must ignore Kermit Gosnell and the undercover videos shoeing inner city abortion clinics violating the law.

Meanwhile, the Second Amendment is still dissected, debated and impugned despite a ruling that it is an individual right.

It shows that liberals never give up on an issue, even if it is "settled law".

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keith2002lhu

May-02-13 7:41 PM

A quote from Ronald Reagan, “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”

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keith2002lhu

May-02-13 7:38 PM

Ronald Reagan, along WITH THE NRA, supported the MULFORD ACT.

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JohnZook

May-02-13 6:13 PM

There's too much "interpreting" going on where there is no need. The term "well regulated" means what it meant in 1791, not 2013. Hamilton writes,"...a militia (the yeomanry and other classes of citizens to be under arms...) in a state of preparedness obtained after rigorous and persistent training." Federalist 29. Deal with it......

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MrShaman

May-02-13 5:04 PM

"All it takes is an excellent letter about guns, violence and the control that our government is trying to gain by taking them away, removing the 2nd Amendment..." - Darlin

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So sayeth the Axis Of Ignorance.

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Bufftrev1

May-02-13 4:58 PM

Hi ritty.. perhaps you are unawares.. I understand the point your attempting to make. But, since Newtown, various studies have come to light.. despite opposition from the NRA and some republicans, I might add.. that document gun statistics. I've heard a person is up to forty times more likely to experience an accidental discharge in the home than actually need one for home defense.So, despite legal gun ownership, deaths do occur. But, that's secondary to Row v Wade, in terms of your argument. That decision says abortion is not murder.. lastly, Liberals, like myself are appalled at the stories about Dr Gosnell and similar ones. To suggest otherwise is to infer all conservatives believe a rape victim should submit because it's gods will, according to the spoken beliefs of a few..

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MrShaman

May-02-13 4:51 PM

"Yep. And when they are both used legally, one still causes innocent deaths." - Ritty77

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C'mon...c'mon...it's been quite-a-few years, since my "conservative"-Protestant indoctrination years (mid-'50s, 'til '68)...and, I'm FAIRLY-certain there are no references to guns, in the "good"-book.

On the other-hand, "zapping" children WAS sanctioned; with "extreme-prejudice".

See:

Murder In The Bible

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Ritty77

May-02-13 4:08 PM

Yep. And when they are both used legally, one still causes innocent deaths.

But when both are used illegally, only one causes a hysterical call for new prohibitions and legislative controls.

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Bufftrev1

May-02-13 2:24 PM

What do guns and abortion have in common? They're both legal..

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CMReeder

May-02-13 1:16 PM

Sorry Josh you can only talk about violence not what they use.

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Josh84

May-02-13 11:21 AM

CMReeder May-02-13 8:37 AM*****"We need to talk about violence not guns even though guns are used in violence and to terrorize. That will be one lop sided discussion."

Don't worry Chuck we could always talk about one of these other items used to kill.

fist, automobile,baseball bat,brick,rock,stick chain,chainsaw,nailgun,metal tubing,plastic knife, knife,taser,letter opener,fingernail clipper,hole puncher,pencil,pen,bottle opener,book,lamp,vase,bottle,baseball,belt,sock,shirt,pants,pillow,blanket,picture frame,tv,keyboard,speaker,wiring,hangers,golf clubs,football helmet,insecticide,fertilizer,charcoal,PVC Pipe,Screw Driver,Lawn Mowers,Edgers,Hedge Clippers,Lumber,saw,utility knives,paint thiner,drop cloth,ceramic tile,glass,refrigerators,ceiling fan blades,closet organizer rods,fork lift,stock bin,chair....

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Darlin

May-02-13 10:56 AM

All it takes is an excellent letter about guns, violence and the control that our government is trying to gain by taking them away, removing the 2nd Amendment all in the name of "protecting the children," to bring out the lefty loonies. More idiotic posts from Shamwow and Chucky. They can't even bring a conversation to the table. Please go back under your rock and dream of your hero - Hussein Obama

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CMReeder

May-02-13 8:37 AM

We need to talk about violence not guns even though guns are used in violence and to terrorize. That will be one lop sided discussion.

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MrShaman

May-02-13 8:28 AM

"Guns and abortion. Enough already." - gavinf56

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Dream-on.

We've got "conservatives" (here), who are OBVIOUSLY dealing with short-term-memory issues.

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MrShaman

May-02-13 8:25 AM

"I was under the impression that it was not longer acceptable to discuss the second amendment in parts as John Zook has done.

I've been corrected several times for pointing out 'well regulated' without also discussing the entire amendment, as well as the definitions of those words as the time the document was crafted, as well as the notes from the time describing the debate, so as to fully understand the amendment and what the authors truly intended." - JerryfromRI

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Punctuation/capitalization appear the source of the present conundrum.

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See: (Text @)

Second Amendment to the United States Constitution (Wikipedia)

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The version (passed by Congress) could EASILY be interpreted as meaning each State (in the U.S.) would require "A well regulated Militia..", for ownership (by "the people") to be considered a legitimate "need".

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