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Can Obamacare be repealed before damage?

March 2, 2013

Calls for repeal of “Obamacare,” the president’s national health care takeover, seemed to fade away after President Barack Obama was re-elected last November....

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MrShaman

Mar-04-13 7:50 AM

"That filthy socialist needs to go... He will ruin this country... Just as he plans to do... His plan is unfolding perfectly... SEE YA!!!" - thinblueline

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Yeah....there was no maturity wasted on you.

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MrShaman

Mar-04-13 6:21 AM

"You could also use the money currently being used for Medicare, Medicaid and VA benefits since everyone would be included in a single payer plan." - mikekerstetter

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BIG 10-4!!!!!

It's not-as-if the "blueprint" doesn't exist....just as Vermont is pursuing; the Saskatchewan "experiment".

See:

Tommy Douglas (Wikipedia)

&

Kiefer Sutherland Introduces The Tommy Douglas Showcase (YouTube)

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MrShaman

Mar-04-13 6:12 AM

"Insurance companies are in it to make money. Running it as a non-profit with every working person and employer/business paying into it could reduce costs." - mikekerstetter

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BINGO!!!!!!

Our (U.S.) competitive-nature has created a "kill-or-be-killed"-style o' Capitalism...and, those with the most "kills" get all the accolades.

The idea, that our health-care system(s) NEEDS to be for-profit, encourages the same mentality...that there are $ome, more-entitled to basic health-care, than others.

Despite the protestations of the more-"entitled" (those, who consider EVERYTHING a competitive-pursuit)...we're STILL (all) "...in this, together". We only need to "recover" the maturity (we USED to celebrate) to recognize that.

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thinblueline

Mar-03-13 6:51 PM

That filthy socialist needs to go... He will ruin this country... Just as he plans to do... His plan is unfolding perfectly... SEE YA!!!

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mikekerstetter

Mar-03-13 4:30 AM

You could also use the money currently being used for Medicare, Medicaid and VA benefits since everyone would be included in a single payer plan.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-03-13 4:28 AM

Nobud74-"So, how do we make payers out of everyone while providing some basic healthcare."

Taxes and co-pays. Yeah, there are still going to be those who fall through the cracks who don't work. As I stated in another thread, I have been in an HMO since around '87. I currently pay $15 for my primary care Dr, $25 for a specialist and $100 for an ER visit. Likewise with prescriptions. "Preferred" drugs are cheapest, brand name are the most expensive. If people don't think those copays are enough, raise them a bit. That'll give everyone some skin in the game.

There is a reason that HMO's are cheaper than Major Medical plans, and I believe that they've figured out it's more cost effective to use preventative medicine than it is to pay for those catastrophic illnesses.

Insurance companies are in it to make money. Running it as a non-profit with every working person and employer/business paying into it could reduce costs.

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nobud74

Mar-02-13 8:18 PM

Mike, I believe good health practices by our population will result in lower health care costs for all and some basic healthcare would go towards that goal. The problem I have is that I get to work to pay for my insurance and provide healthcare for others who do not take care of themselves. When something is free you take it for granted. So, how do we make payers out of everyone while providing some basic healthcare. How do we get the costs down? Lawyers, pharma, govt and insurance companies all have their hands in it. They also contribute heavily to pols (other than govt obviously) and so do you really believe the pols will do the right thing? Fat chance.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-02-13 11:24 AM

rick424-"Just fix what won't work and move on. About time this country has health care for all."

Rick, something we agree upon.

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rick424

Mar-02-13 8:11 AM

"Can Obamacare be repealed before damage?"

No. Just fix what won't work and move on. About time this country has health care for all.

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MrShaman

Mar-02-13 6:28 AM

"What parts of Obamacare do you want repealed? Personally I like the ability to cover Children to age 26 if healthcare isn't offered by their employer and the clause that prevents insurance companies from refusing to cover you for a preexisting condition.

Healthcare is a drain on the economy, as the people spend more in premiums, deductibles and co-pays and businesses pay more to cover their employees, there is less to spend on products by the workers and less for the companies to expand their businesses and employ more people." - mikekerstetter

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Vermont is (already) moving-ahead with The President's (original) preference.

See:

Vermont for Single Payer

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MrShaman

Mar-02-13 6:20 AM

"That's what happens when sheeple keep electing 'the privileged' to rule..." - andy33

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That's what the Koch Brothers are telling you, huh??

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MrShaman

Mar-02-13 6:17 AM

Gee..."horror"-stories...without any actual details. How "surprising".

In their neverending-pursuit of an adrenaline-"fix", "conservatives" really do need to pick some new material.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-02-13 5:29 AM

What parts of Obamacare do you want repealed? Personally I like the ability to cover Children to age 26 if healthcare isn't offered by their employer and the clause that prevents insurance companies from refusing to cover you for a preexisting condition.

Healthcare is a drain on the economy, as the people spend more in premiums, deductibles and co-pays and businesses pay more to cover their employees, there is less to spend on products by the workers and less for the companies to expand their businesses and employ more people.

We need a common sense approach to healthcare. Obamacare has it's good points, but it didn't address the core problems.

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andy33

Mar-02-13 4:29 AM

That's what happens when sheeple keep electing 'the privileged' to rule...

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