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February 11, 2013

A teacher was fired because he gave a Bible to a student who asked for one. Our country was built on Biblical principles, the Bible being the main textbook in schoo....

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Cattledude74

Feb-12-13 10:23 PM

It is sad when a teacher cant be kind.

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wwhickok

Feb-12-13 1:05 PM

As far as the Pagan vs. Christian. You know what the writers of the bible and the people who preach to you want you to know.

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wwhickok

Feb-12-13 1:01 PM

First of all, no Enigma, i don't feel I come in here and 'push my beliefs' on anyone, frankly I dont' care whether you believe in the same things I do. What I do is simply state why I believe the things I do. It's to a large degree, about the way you 'push your beliefs'. This letter basically says "my way is the only way the rest of you are going to live with Satan". If these articles didn't have such a judging attitude, I probably would have a much less critical view and opinion of them. Having said that, I don't disagree with your overall point Enigma.

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enigma

Feb-11-13 8:52 PM

DavidBross,"I think there are other reasonable options besides believing in God as presented in the Bible and Atheism."

You are very correct David, but only one is true. That is what the discussion is about. I don't really care what is fun or convenient or even advantageous to me. I'm looking for the truth. BTW, the Bible never says that we are the reason for the existence of the universe, so maybe you do believe in the God of the Bible.

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enigma

Feb-11-13 8:45 PM

CHayes,"And I hope you'll think about the fact that every Christmas, that you are essentially celebrating a pagan holiday."

Christmas is not a pagan holiday. Some pagan traditions have been adopted into the celebration, which is regrettable, but Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ. The pagans do not do that; something you and the pagans have in common. Spare me the foolishness please. I know the history of how Christmas became to be celebrated when it is, and the traditions, but the bottom line is that it is a Christian holiday.

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CHayes

Feb-11-13 6:59 PM

And I hope you'll think about the fact that every Christmas, that you are essentially celebrating a pagan holiday.

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toolman

Feb-11-13 6:00 PM

to Hayes, If there is no place for this in our govt. or schools I want YOU to think*****hard every time YOU write a date on a check or refer to the day of the year A clear reference to the birth of Jesus Christ!

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USABorn

Feb-11-13 4:55 PM

CHayes - 3:57 PM

"I bet the pension plan for popes isn't very good, since none of them have resigned in the last 600 years."

Wrong. Pope Gregory XII resigned within your 600 year timeframe.

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enigma

Feb-11-13 4:49 PM

wwhickok,"what I do not respect is how many Christians feel the need to try to push their beliefs upon everyon else."

Isn't that what you are doing by posting here? You come here every day and "push" your beliefs. That is what people do when they believe they are right, they try to convince others. Why is it that when Christians do this, it is somehow pushy and wrong? Now if a religious person threatened to cut your head off if you didn't convert, that would be wrong, but that's a different religion, not Christianity. You are free to believe what you want and to try and convince me of the truth of what you believe. You should not begrudge that right to others, even if they are Christians.

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enigma

Feb-11-13 4:37 PM

Yoxtheimer," The Crusades wasn't exactly going door to door peacefully inviting others to consider the Christian faith."

No, the Crusades was a series of wars between Christians and Muslims over the Holy Land. Oh and by the way they started when Muslims invaded the Holy Land.

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CHayes

Feb-11-13 3:57 PM

I bet the pension plan for popes isn't very good, since none of them have resigned in the last 600 years.

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CHayes

Feb-11-13 3:56 PM

Popeless Monday.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-13 3:01 PM

"I never could understand why many people think they have to take a firm stand about something based upon sketchy or no real hard evidence." - philunderwood

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When people DREAD Death, they're willing to do/say/think (absolutely) ANYTHING that'll help convince them they'll live "forever".

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CHayes

Feb-11-13 2:50 PM

" A teacher was fired because he gave a Bible to a student who asked for one"

And then there's the reality of the situation. A SUBSTITUTE teacher, was taken off the rotation list for a year (NOT fired), because he violated a school district ban on distributing religious literature in the school. And the child didn't ask for the Bible, he said he didn't have one.

The funniest part of this whole thing, is if this guy had given a copy of a Quran, or a buhdist text to the kid, the same Jesus people screaming their lungs out now, would be burning the guy in effigy.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-13 2:47 PM

"Teaching the Theory of Evolution has ruined countless lives - it says there is no God, no hope, no eternity, no purpose." - Dorothy Koontz

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...And, there are no living people who can prove otherwise.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-13 2:34 PM

"If everyone believed and thought the same things, be it religion ,poitics,favorite color or anything else there would be no need for conversation or these comments boards." - Tgrammiex4

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Ah, yes...the "magic" of "absolutes"!!!

Why risk the possibility of having to defend your beliefs/opinions, when you can merely "run" with a "herd" that believes what you believe?!!

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MrShaman

Feb-11-13 2:24 PM

"As one learns more about existence it becomes difficult not to speculate that there’s intelligence behind it." - philunderwood

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Yeah....Mother Nature.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-13 2:21 PM

"A teacher was fired because he gave a Bible to a student who asked for one." - Dorothy Koontz

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...And, I know someone who'd gotten launched a "good" 10 feet, for walking behind a horse.

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bryan48

Feb-11-13 1:55 PM

Let's let teachers to educate and families teach morality and religion. That is their job.

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philunderwood

Feb-11-13 1:27 PM

Sorry, that was Joseph I was responding too; darn senior moments.

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philunderwood

Feb-11-13 1:24 PM

David, I’d say you’re not a true atheist then.

A truly objective person can quite properly simply say I don’t know when there isn’t enough evidence to decide one way or the other about any particular subject. I never could understand why many people think they have to take a firm stand about something based upon sketchy or no real hard evidence.

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KrazyK

Feb-11-13 1:13 PM

philunderwood wrote:

"People who willingly accept any intellectual or philosophical package deal are doing so because they lack confidence in their own ability to use their powers of reason to arrive at their own conclusions based upon their learning and experience. To bolster their confidence in that acceptance, they try and convince others to believe as they do."

Great comment. Those people are the followers; never the leaders.

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JosephOtto

Feb-11-13 1:07 PM

"Atheists believe there IS no God."

Not true. Well, not for most of them and certainly not for me. I am not positive the God described in the Bible (or the Quran or the Upanishads or the Bhagavad Gita) does not exist. Such a person would better be described as an ANTI-theist. Atheism in its true sense is not a belief; it is the LACK of belief.

Someone says to me, "Proposition X is true." I say, "That's an fascinating but incredible proposition. Do you have equally incredible evidence to support your claim?" I have yet to see it.

If someone tells me there is chlorophyll living under the surface of one of the moons of Jupiter, its a monumental statement. I'm not positive its not true but I'm not going to believe it is without some extraordinary evidence.

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DavidBross

Feb-11-13 12:57 PM

I think there are other reasonable options besides believing in God as presented in the Bible and Atheism. One that I find particularly attractive is the idea that there is a creator, but that our existence is not the reason for the existence of the Universe.

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HemlockToYourSocrates

Feb-11-13 12:55 PM

This world has been going to crap since people stoppped believing in Zeus! We need people to start putting Zeus back into their lives! Only then can we truly be a truly moral and happy society!

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