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Global warming and power

January 29, 2013

The issue isn't whether or not there has been a warming trend over the past few years. The issue is whether or not Man's activities are a significant factor in this....

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msgjsheets

Jan-30-13 8:26 PM

What they gain JerryRI is money and power. Money from the government for research and support and power to regulate. That is what it has always been about.

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rick424

Jan-30-13 8:09 PM

I hear you Texas, same here.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-30-13 7:20 PM

Rick424,

I guess we will find out from God in the future. Many things he makes clear but some things are mysteries and we will find out some time in the future, maybe.

Concerning the comment the other day, it was a quote. The beauty is that God can forgive; just ask. I am very confident that he wants your marriage to be blessed and that He wants you and your wife's relationship to grow and flourish. He also wants your relationship to grow and flourish with Him.

Late response; long day at work.

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CMReeder

Jan-30-13 10:13 AM

"There is certainly more agreement on the history of variations in our planet's climate, than on our impact on climate. So, I wonder why there isn't more discussion regarding our ability and need to adjust and adapt to potential changes?"

Because you can not get even those in power and influence that there is a problem to begin with concerning climate.

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rick424

Jan-30-13 7:55 AM

Texas who is correct? Your belief or theirs. According to what you said the other day, I committed adultery since my wife was divorced. As times change it seems as though what is said in the Bible change, or should I say how it is interpreted.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-30-13 5:54 AM

Cont>>>

the start and finish of the era and they have to believe that the effects of sin (ie shedding of blood) transcend the timeline before the appearance of mankind.

There are many things that Christian brothers and sisters have different views on. One is the millennium and the return of Christ.

But there are many core doctrines that are generally held by all Christians and are foundational.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-30-13 5:49 AM

Francine, I could be wrong.

As I mentioned, in the Christian community, there are two generally accepted viewpoints of creation, ie the young earth and the old earth. The young earth creationists put the earth at 5,000 to 10,000 years but can not satisfactorily explain the apparent amount of time to form all the geologic layers of the earth and the seemingly billion of years for forming the expanding cosmic realm. They have to believe in a extremely earlier rapid creation not consistent to the way things occur in the current times.

Whereas the old earth creationist that believe the earth and universe are indeed 5-10 billion years old to explain geology and astrophysics seem to contradict 1. the Biblical seven days of creation and 2. the entrance of death into the world before the man showed up on the scene because there is no death without sin.

They have to believe the seven days were actually seven extended periods of time (eras) with day and night being the start an

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rick424

Jan-29-13 11:22 PM

Oh, I see how it is, you just pick and choose.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-29-13 10:10 PM

Francine, There are old earth creationist and young earth creationist in the church. I have elaborated on this some in the past. If you want me to look up and repost some of these comment, let me know.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-29-13 7:42 PM

"<tick><tick><tick><tick><tick><tick>.." [<chirp><chirp><crickets chirping>]..... -JHilfirty

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Google "Ice Age Glaciers in Pennsylvania"

Below is a quote from one link...

"It is estimated that the total duration of ice cover in the northern tier counties of Pennsylvania was about 6000 years and about 1000 years at the terminus. Ice last retreated from our area about 20,000 years ago, melting at the rate of about 30 years per mile (assuming no readvances). Hence, it took approximately 1000 years to recede from Tunkhannock to the New York border"

Or try "Pennsylvania and the Ice Age by W. D. Sevon" published by the DCNR. You can download it free immediately or better yet go to Amazon and pay $18 and wait for a couple of days.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-29-13 7:06 PM

@gavinf56

You are ok in my book.

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Bufftrev1

Jan-29-13 6:58 PM

Hello all.. for those who question if global warming is occurring, in addition to the natural cycles of the earths atmosphere, we now have millions upon millions of tons of carbon based gases being released into the atmosphere every single day. These gases are absorbed into the trees, grasses and plants as well as the worlds oceans, and you don't believe this has any impact on the worlds ambient average temperature?

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gavinf56

Jan-29-13 6:57 PM

FWIW Jerry, I don't think man is without fault here, but from works by other scientists I do question the level of fault.

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gavinf56

Jan-29-13 6:40 PM

97 out of 100 are looking to connect a preconceived notion rather than looking for a natural cause.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-29-13 6:21 PM

So, 97 out of 100 climate scientist are blind ideologues?

I have a hard time believing that.

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gavinf56

Jan-29-13 6:11 PM

Blind ideology.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-29-13 5:54 PM

Let's look at this from a different angle: Assume global warming is a scam, what do the global warming activist want and what do they have to gain?

Answer: Less CO2 in the atmosphere to "supposedly" slow the warming. But what do they gain? Nothing.

So ask yourself this, why go to the trouble of a planet wide conspiracy to convince the populous of something that does not exist and have nothing to gain for it.

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rick424

Jan-29-13 5:29 PM

So Ritty you think the billion plus cars in the world today, spewing their exhaust has no effect what so ever on the environment?

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gavinf56

Jan-29-13 4:45 PM

"You people are perfect examples of our NEED for increased-immigration; "fresh blood"." MrShaman

Glad I did my part to help rectify that problem.

Have another drink Skippy.

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Ritty77

Jan-29-13 4:28 PM

Totally agree, David Bross. The chances that humans can influence the climate on a large scale are even less than the chances that we caused it in the first place. Also, "climate change" would certainly be a welcome change to some areas and peoples, and they would adapt, as well.

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gavinf56

Jan-29-13 4:22 PM

"(not your average T-Bagger; physicist, contracted by Koch Brothers)" MrShaman

Koch Brothers......drink!

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rick424

Jan-29-13 4:03 PM

MrShaman "Prove it..."

Oh that one is good, I mean really good. Thanks for making my day. I am going to wait for the answer on that one since I thought the earth was only 10,000 years old.

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MrShaman

Jan-29-13 3:56 PM

"We had glaciers parked on top of Lycoming County less than 20,000 years ago." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Prove it....

<tick><tick><tick><tick><tick><tick>...

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MrShaman

Jan-29-13 3:54 PM

"The dinosaurs did not burn fossil fuels so you can't blame fossil fuels. Nice logic there enigma." - CMReeder

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See:

Alvarez hypothesis

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DavidBross

Jan-29-13 3:51 PM

There is certainly more agreement on the history of variations in our planet's climate, than on our impact on climate. So, I wonder why there isn't more discussion regarding our ability and need to adjust and adapt to potential changes?

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