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Gun control suggestions

January 18, 2013

As our vice president fields opinions on gun control to come up with new laws in control of them. I have a few suggestions. First, enforce the laws that were already enacted....

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nobud74

Jan-19-13 8:29 PM

Aw, c'mon...be fair. Those cops (typically) SWEAR they see metal, flashing, before they blow-away those "minority" youths!!!!--Shammy

uhh, Mr. Troll, those deaths are caused by illegal guns and mostly youth killing each other. You really are a turd.

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prouddad

Jan-19-13 7:34 PM

Not knowing Bobbie or Mr. Hilfirty, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But isn't it irresponsible to pin a comment on a criminal case that's more than two years old? I honestly don't know the disposition of those charges, but it seems that fairness would beg the question.

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MrShaman

Jan-19-13 9:29 AM

"I'm all for that, Terry, but when at home, especially at night, the gun needs to be real handy." - Ritty77

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....Especially for paranoids...and, we CERTAINLY wouldn't want to restrict paranoids' access to guns!!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Jan-19-13 9:26 AM

"What about a Tax Credit for purchasing a gun Vault to secure the firearms?" - ghTerry

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That makes TOO-much sense!!!!!!!!

HERETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Jan-19-13 9:21 AM

"The fact is that the "assault gun" shootings are vivid but the most damage is done by the handgun deaths of 13k-15k mostly "minority" youth." - nobud74

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Aw, c'mon...be fair. Those cops (typically) SWEAR they see metal, flashing, before they blow-away those "minority" youths!!!!

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CMReeder

Jan-19-13 8:22 AM

Good letter!

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nobud74

Jan-18-13 10:45 PM

You may well be right, but how many people are killed in other countries by other means? A knife is the preferred method in many Asian countries. Blunt objects here kill more people than "assault rifles" so we should ban your Louisville Slugger?

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CHayes

Jan-18-13 9:36 PM

I'm pretty sure the number of people killed in Chicago so far this year, was about 20 more people than will be killed by guns all year in the UK. And what exactly does.that say about us?

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CHayes

Jan-18-13 9:34 PM

" 27 homicides in Chicago so far this year committed by people who have no intention of obeying current or future laws."

And how many of those people were killed with guns that came from IN, a short 45 min jaunt from Chicago?

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nobud74

Jan-18-13 8:08 PM

True.

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ghTerry

Jan-18-13 8:02 PM

It would create a bigger incentive for the people who don't have a vault. No different than the energy ( windows, furnaces, hybrid cars) incentives. Only a tax credit... not reimbursment. The number of people who do not own a vault by far out number the ones that do. And you have to admitt... this would secure a lot more firearms than anything else.

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nobud74

Jan-18-13 7:34 PM

Why do we need a tax credit? I agree that a gun safe is a great idea and if you need immediate access to a handgun there are biometric gun safes. Perhaps if we held people accountable for firearms that were not secured and then stolen we would have less theft. I see the carrot approach, but we also need the stick, don't we?

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ghTerry

Jan-18-13 7:20 PM

True. But the safe is more for "When your away".

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Ritty77

Jan-18-13 7:09 PM

I'm all for that, Terry, but when at home, especially at night, the gun needs to be real handy.

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ghTerry

Jan-18-13 6:58 PM

When is everyone going to wake up... I think some regulations can be adjusted. But remember, "All" the regulations will only work for law abiding people. Criminals would care less... Here's a question I have.... What about a Tax Credit for purchasing a gun Vault to secure the firearms? This would keep the children safer and the criminals from steeling them. At least make it a heck of a lot harder to take them. This is just my opinion... Most people I know do not have a gun safe, yet this would secure a lot more firearms.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-18-13 6:51 PM

sideliner-"My point exactly. Responsible owners of assault weapons are major targets of theft. Get them off the street. No one ever should own one."

Here is my point... ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S. So just what the h e double toothpicks are you banning?

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nobud74

Jan-18-13 6:48 PM

Hey, Ritty, at that rate, they'll break last years numbers--go Chicago!!!

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Ritty77

Jan-18-13 6:39 PM

27 homicides in Chicago so far this year committed by people who have no intention of obeying current or future laws.

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nobud74

Jan-18-13 5:59 PM

We are not going to see gun bans, there is not enough support for that in Congress. We are going to see mandatory background checks on all firearms purchases in all states and there will likely be, and should be, a sharing of mental health records that relate to the safety of gun ownership. The fact is that the "assault gun" shootings are vivid but the most damage is done by the handgun deaths of 13k-15k mostly "minority" youth. We will still be able to buy and own AR15s and other "scary" guns. There will also likely be a national registry coming in the not too distant future. Some of these are good ideas, some are not. But, the illegal gun trade will continue despite all these efforts. So all the screeching back and forth really means nothing.

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MrShaman

Jan-18-13 4:24 PM

"These idiots on the white house think they can change whatever they want." - mazmdm

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Hmmmmmmmm...the LAST folks, who were "on the white house", JUSTIFIED "preemptively" striking...got a LOT o' young-Americans killed...and, did so without NEARLY as much flak as the folks (presently) "on the white house".

Why's that...I mean...besides skin-tone??

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MrShaman

Jan-18-13 4:15 PM

"Alright, allow me to take a step back here, clearly I've gotten a little riled up. I don't want to become the next Shaman...no one wants that." - wwhickok

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Yeah...considering BOTH sides, of whatever-issue, typically requires more EFFORT (and, maturity) than the average person is capable of expending.

You're excused.

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MrShaman

Jan-18-13 4:06 PM

"The argument about mandatory "mental health" screenings to be done at the time of a gun purchase raises some questions in my mind. How are they to be accomplished? Will a highly trained psychologist/psychiatrist be present by the gun counter at all gun shops and big box stores?" - CaymanJim

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I'm guessing it's the customers history that'd be in-question...whether-or-not that person has BEEN treated for emotional/psychological-issues. A-far-as psychological-testing, police-departments conduct those, all-the-time, for people attempting to join "the force". Inconvenience (as an excuse for NOT testing) seems a "little" absurd!!!

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MrShaman

Jan-18-13 3:53 PM

"Why is it that people who know nothing about guns think that they are qualified to decide which guns are "not necessary" for private citizens to own. Here's one for you. If the police can use it, then it should be legal for private citizens. A country in which the police have rights the average citizen does not is a police state." - enigma

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So...your preference is anarchy; every man for himself??

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MrShaman

Jan-18-13 3:46 PM

"Secondly, the story about the bus, doesn't sound all that far fetched." - wwhickok

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You KNOW people who transport SEVERAL guns in a single-BAG??!!!

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MrShaman

Jan-18-13 3:35 PM

"Guess we should bring prohibition back then too"

I suppose at.this point that I shouldn't be surprised by either another false equivalency between putting increased restricions on one particular type of firearm, and an all out prohibition, or the fact that gun owners here seem flabberghasted by the revelation that irresponsible people buy firearms every day." - CHayes

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You've quite obviously forgotten about the (laziness of the) status-quo/black-or-white/right-or-wrong-folks. Matters of "degree" suggest there might be some work required...so why kick-in the gray-matter when an on/off-switch works, just as "well".

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